shooter at Ft Hood

griz · November 5th, 2009, 05:02 PM

There was a shooting at Fort Hood this afternoon. Multiple shooters. Sounds bad.

RoadkingLarry · November 5th, 2009, 05:03 PM

This is bad.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html

Quote:

At Least 7 Dead, 12 Wounded in Shooting at Ft. Hood in Texas
Thursday, November 05, 2009

Print ShareThisDEVELOPING: A mass shooting at Ft. Hood military base in Texas has left at least 7 dead and 12 wounded and one suspected gunman is on the loose, officials told Fox News.

A massive manhunt was under way for the suspect at large, Fox News confirmed. One person was in custody. The New York Post said that there were two shooters at the Army base massacre.

The attack apparently happened at the base's Soldier Readiness Center. Army officials didn't know whether the victims were civilians or military personnel.

Other media reports said the number of victims remained unclear.

The men were reportedly dressed in Army fatigues, but military officials couldn't confirm that they were Army personnel.

The base and area schools were on lockdown after the mass shooting, and all those on the Army base were asked to gather for a head count.

The FBI was en route to Ft. Hood to provide assistance.

Click here for more from MyFoxDFW.com.

**ZeSpectre** · November 5th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Well... about all we can do is wait for more information.

**Henry Bowman** · November 5th, 2009, 05:48 PM

NBC: 7 dead, 20 injured in Fort Hood shooting

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/336788...me_and_courts/

SomeKid · November 5th, 2009, 05:48 PM

Kind of reminds me of what the nuts were gona do in NJ a few years back.

Smart response would be to stop disarming as many people as possible on military bases. Have every single soldier trained and instructed on basic pistol usage, and keep them armed.

Obama is President. I predict gun control, to protect our soldiers! (Which is both humorous in the context, and frightening when one considers why armed citizens would be dangerous to government soldiers...)

**Henry Bowman** · November 5th, 2009, 05:55 PM

Update 3:52 ARMY: 12 Dead, 31 injured, two suspects in custody.

http://www.kxxv.com/global/story.asp?s=11451553

griz · November 5th, 2009, 05:56 PM

Press confrence from the base:

12 dead, 31 wounded. The shooter was killed and two suspects were arrested. One single incident this afternoon. The shooter was a soldier from the base and had two handguns.

deaconkharma · November 5th, 2009, 06:03 PM

should be armed...

Interesting parralel is on the show NCIS when Zeva, the Mossad agent visited a base office and asked why no one was armed and seemed baffled with Denozo's answer...
Once again where folks are disarmed, these things will continue to happen...
sad that those tasked with our protection can't protect themselves.

The current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is making a speech to the same effect but of course will never make the connection that "safety and security at home" should be properly "provided for."

**Henry Bowman** · November 5th, 2009, 06:13 PM

Threads merged.

Treo · November 5th, 2009, 06:18 PM

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=219

Ft Hood police scanner FWIW Last update I heard states 3 shooters all military and three diferent locations. I've HEARD ARs but don't have confirmation

highfive · November 5th, 2009, 06:22 PM

I'm here at Fort Hood...only one shooting, 12 dead, 31 shot..one of the shooters was killed..they got 2 more suspects and they just caught the last one, downtown Killeen...this place looks like a war zone, even my wife can't get out of her job, because of the lockdown. When they said, one of the shooters was on the lose, hey my friends, it was dog outside, alarm on and shotgun ready, better to be ready...Still worry about my wife, but we talked and everybody at her job is ok...

zxcvbob · November 5th, 2009, 06:33 PM

ABC News is saying the primary shooter was an officer! Major Malik Nadal Hasan. (what kind of name is that?) I hope the soldiers tore his head off.

everallm · November 5th, 2009, 06:36 PM

No, need 'em alive for information

SomeKid · November 5th, 2009, 06:36 PM

bob, no kidding? I wonder if anyone in the media bothers to check on whether he is a practitioner of the religion of peace...

ETA: Guess bob was serious.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115137

Never trust someone named Malik.

zxcvbob · November 5th, 2009, 06:39 PM

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No, need 'em alive for information

He's already dead -- I'm just hoping he had a fitting (and painful) demise.

csmkersh · November 5th, 2009, 06:49 PM

The person identified as the primary shooter was a Major/O4 from Virginia. He was also a Muslim convert. Sources have told Fox and the Temple Tx reporter that the Major was unhappy about his upcoming deployment to Iraq. No info as to rank, etc, of the two other soldiers currently in custody.

Taurus 66 · November 5th, 2009, 07:38 PM

The shooter's name is Major "Milik Nidal Hasan". That's a long way from a common "Joe Smith" name.

Oh ... when will we EVER learn?!

Hardtarget · November 5th, 2009, 07:46 PM

yep! The N.B.C. news just cannot seem to understand how this could happen. ! He's a muslem...next question. probably spelled that wrong but I don't care.

Mark

Taurus 66 · November 5th, 2009, 07:57 PM

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The N.B.C. news just cannot seem to understand how this could happen. ! He's a muslem...next question.

"Keep in mind, not all muslims are terrorists. But isn't it strange how almost all terrorists happen to be muslims?" - Michael Savage

Princi · November 5th, 2009, 07:59 PM

This is, of course, all George Bush's fault because of his attack on Iraq.

Fortunately, we now have a president that is reaching out to the Muslim community. This shooting is just an example of how we have failed in reaching out to our Muslim brothers.

I like the 50BMG it really reaches out.

**Bennett Prescott** · November 5th, 2009, 08:05 PM

Any more racism and this thread is over.

XTerminator · November 5th, 2009, 08:38 PM

Racism????? There has been no mention of anyone's race in this thread.

Steve

Warlocke · November 5th, 2009, 08:44 PM

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Any more racism and this thread is over.

Any more (quotes from michael savage) and this thread is over?

1. It's not racism. Muslim is not a race.

2. Let's ask/wait ad see if this man was a valuable soldier who was actually stressed/ pushed too far etc, and made a horrible mistake, or if he was a bad man before he put the uniform on.

I am sure there are more options than those 2 but, really. C'mon we are talking about an Officer in the US Army (and 2 others) so let's show a little bit of tact and face reality.

The man had an education. He spent at least 6-8 years or so in the army to reach that rank. A lot of lives have been effected by this.

Catherine · November 5th, 2009, 08:50 PM

EDIT:

I meant to type LUBY'S not Ruby's. We have a Ruby's in town and I was thinking LUBY but typed RUBY. Apologies to the forum.
~~~~~

I would comment on this because there is much more to this story but I will remain quiet for now on some points.

Thank you, B.P.

Good and bad in all people and in all religions.

May the deceased rest in peace. May the wounded heal. The families and friends of the deceased and wounded have my sincere condolences.

Too bad that NO one stopped the shooter in any manner from the gitgo!

This is not the place but 'they' will bring up all manner of things as they have in ALL news outlets from the Army base, the illegal war, bias/hatred towards Muslims which is like lumping ALL Christians, Jews, agnostics, atheists, veterans, and GUN folks in one group - bias/hatred is WRONG, HANDGUNS, the Ruby Cafe shootings in the past, etc. ALL of the buzz words were used today on ALL news outlets including camou uniforms - 'authorized to WEAR them' or not as many NEWS stations mentioned including Faux Fox, the officer being a doctor - psychiatrist, his transfer, his good record in the past - background until the last transfer and 'evaluation' from D.C./MD to Texas - how convenient, NOT, and tons more.

THIS is getting a lot of attention. Meanwhile, OUR U.S. military and allies are getting killed/wounded in illegal/stupid Wars plus many INNOCENT people overseas. Gee, does that get 24/7 attention like this story or a dead singer/movie star?! NOT!

May the dead rest in peace on ALL sides. May ALL of the wounded heal.

Catherine
Dead men tell no tales - very convenient for the powers that be. A lot does NOT add up as usual.

Catherine · November 5th, 2009, 08:56 PM

ALL People should be allowed to carry a GUN for self defense no matter where they work or play or live.

ANY kind of carry. Have gun will travel.

This proves that the anti gun - anti liberty people who say that ONLY the police and military should be able to carry and use a GUN are wrong - dead wrong.

Catherine

November 5th, 2009, 05:02 PM	#1
griz Senior Member Join Date: 12-25-02 Location: Eastern Virginia Posts: 2,364	shooter at Ft Hood There was a shooting at Fort Hood this afternoon. Multiple shooters. Sounds bad.

November 5th, 2009, 05:17 PM	#3
ZeSpectre Moderator Join Date: 10-10-06 Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA Posts: 6,932	Well... about all we can do is wait for more information. __________________ . "The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on"

November 5th, 2009, 05:48 PM	#4
Henry Bowman Senior Member Join Date: 12-30-02 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 7,471	NBC: 7 dead, 20 injured in Fort Hood shooting http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/336788...me_and_courts/ __________________ Send lawyers, guns, and money . . .

November 5th, 2009, 05:48 PM	#5
SomeKid Senior Member Join Date: 08-25-05 Location: SE Tennessee Posts: 1,962	Kind of reminds me of what the nuts were gona do in NJ a few years back. Smart response would be to stop disarming as many people as possible on military bases. Have every single soldier trained and instructed on basic pistol usage, and keep them armed. Obama is President. I predict gun control, to protect our soldiers! (Which is both humorous in the context, and frightening when one considers why armed citizens would be dangerous to government soldiers...) __________________ Lets give Tennessee the best gun laws in the country! http://www.tfaonline.org/index.php http://www.tfaonline.org/forum

November 5th, 2009, 05:55 PM	#6
Henry Bowman Senior Member Join Date: 12-30-02 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 7,471	Update 3:52 ARMY: 12 Dead, 31 injured, two suspects in custody. http://www.kxxv.com/global/story.asp?s=11451553 __________________ Send lawyers, guns, and money . . .

November 5th, 2009, 05:56 PM	#7
griz Senior Member Join Date: 12-25-02 Location: Eastern Virginia Posts: 2,364	Press confrence from the base: 12 dead, 31 wounded. The shooter was killed and two suspects were arrested. One single incident this afternoon. The shooter was a soldier from the base and had two handguns.

November 5th, 2009, 06:03 PM	#8
deaconkharma Senior Member Join Date: 08-04-08 Location: no longer a member here Posts: 1,056	I agree should be armed... Interesting parralel is on the show NCIS when Zeva, the Mossad agent visited a base office and asked why no one was armed and seemed baffled with Denozo's answer... Once again where folks are disarmed, these things will continue to happen... sad that those tasked with our protection can't protect themselves. The current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is making a speech to the same effect but of course will never make the connection that "safety and security at home" should be properly "provided for."

November 5th, 2009, 06:13 PM	#9
Henry Bowman Senior Member Join Date: 12-30-02 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 7,471	Threads merged. __________________ Send lawyers, guns, and money . . .

November 5th, 2009, 06:18 PM	#10
Treo Senior Member Join Date: 11-30-07 Location: Co. Springs Posts: 4,046	http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=219 Ft Hood police scanner FWIW Last update I heard states 3 shooters all military and three diferent locations. I've HEARD ARs but don't have confirmation __________________ Flip 'em the bird and die like a VIKING! (Ironically, my last post on THR.org)

November 5th, 2009, 06:22 PM	#11
highfive Senior Member Join Date: 08-06-07 Location: Texas Posts: 399	I'm here at Fort Hood...only one shooting, 12 dead, 31 shot..one of the shooters was killed..they got 2 more suspects and they just caught the last one, downtown Killeen...this place looks like a war zone, even my wife can't get out of her job, because of the lockdown. When they said, one of the shooters was on the lose, hey my friends, it was dog outside, alarm on and shotgun ready, better to be ready...Still worry about my wife, but we talked and everybody at her job is ok... __________________ "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." The Dalai Lama "As I approach the gates of heaven; to St. Peter I will tell; One more soldier reporting sir; I've served my time in hell". -Mark Anthony Gresswell

November 5th, 2009, 06:33 PM	#12
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: 09-15-07 Location: SE Minnesota Posts: 2,479	ABC News is saying the primary shooter was an officer! Major Malik Nadal Hasan. (what kind of name is that?) I hope the soldiers tore his head off. __________________ "Imagine how much more hopeful the story of the gospel would be if Jesus had a gun" __ Steven Colbert

November 5th, 2009, 06:36 PM	#13
everallm Senior Member Join Date: 06-06-07 Posts: 1,201	No, need 'em alive for information __________________ "Remember children, once we have pulled the pin from Mr. Grenade, Mr Grenade is no longer our friend" Just 'cause I live here does not make me a septic, you muppet !

November 5th, 2009, 06:49 PM	#16
csmkersh Senior Member Join Date: 01-26-04 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 2,854	The person identified as the primary shooter was a Major/O4 from Virginia. He was also a Muslim convert. Sources have told Fox and the Temple Tx reporter that the Major was unhappy about his upcoming deployment to Iraq. No info as to rank, etc, of the two other soldiers currently in custody. __________________ Sam A. Kersh NRA Patron Member L.E.A.A. Life Member TSRA Life Member csmkersh@thegunnerslair.com http://thegunnerslair.com http://home.flash.net/~csmkersh

November 5th, 2009, 07:38 PM	#17
Taurus 66 Senior Member Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Monroe County, New York Posts: 1,812	The shooter's name is Major "Milik Nidal Hasan". That's a long way from a common "Joe Smith" name. Oh ... when will we EVER learn?! __________________ The Anti-liberal There's slow, then there's Nebraska. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=216153 There's ADD, then there's this thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=225740 The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution: "When seconds count, police are just minutes away."

November 5th, 2009, 07:46 PM	#18
Hardtarget Senior Member Join Date: 12-21-02 Location: Nashville, Tn. Posts: 1,188	yep! The N.B.C. news just cannot seem to understand how this could happen. ! He's a muslem...next question. probably spelled that wrong but I don't care. Mark __________________ ...even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while.

November 5th, 2009, 07:59 PM	#20
Princi Senior Member Join Date: 01-15-07 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 277	This is, of course, all George Bush's fault because of his attack on Iraq. Fortunately, we now have a president that is reaching out to the Muslim community. This shooting is just an example of how we have failed in reaching out to our Muslim brothers. I like the 50BMG it really reaches out.

November 5th, 2009, 08:05 PM	#21
Bennett Prescott Moderator Join Date: 12-11-07 Location: Central CT Posts: 964	Any more racism and this thread is over. __________________ "[The 2nd Amendment's] free exercise is the antithesis of serfdom and the only meaningful form of holocaust insurance known to man." -- Gus Cotey, Jr. NRA, GOA, and JPFO Life Member. USCCA and SAF Annual Member. Public Relations Coordinator, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Inc.

November 5th, 2009, 08:38 PM	#22
XTerminator Member Join Date: 01-30-08 Location: Foothills of the Cascades Posts: 42	Racism????? There has been no mention of anyone's race in this thread. Steve

November 5th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#24
Catherine Senior Member Join Date: 03-20-08 Location: Montana Posts: 3,199	EDIT: I meant to type LUBY'S not Ruby's. We have a Ruby's in town and I was thinking LUBY but typed RUBY. Apologies to the forum. ~~~~~ I would comment on this because there is much more to this story but I will remain quiet for now on some points. Thank you, B.P. Good and bad in all people and in all religions. May the deceased rest in peace. May the wounded heal. The families and friends of the deceased and wounded have my sincere condolences. Too bad that NO one stopped the shooter in any manner from the gitgo! This is not the place but 'they' will bring up all manner of things as they have in ALL news outlets from the Army base, the illegal war, bias/hatred towards Muslims which is like lumping ALL Christians, Jews, agnostics, atheists, veterans, and GUN folks in one group - bias/hatred is WRONG, HANDGUNS, the Ruby Cafe shootings in the past, etc. ALL of the buzz words were used today on ALL news outlets including camou uniforms - 'authorized to WEAR them' or not as many NEWS stations mentioned including Faux Fox, the officer being a doctor - psychiatrist, his transfer, his good record in the past - background until the last transfer and 'evaluation' from D.C./MD to Texas - how convenient, NOT, and tons more. THIS is getting a lot of attention. Meanwhile, OUR U.S. military and allies are getting killed/wounded in illegal/stupid Wars plus many INNOCENT people overseas. Gee, does that get 24/7 attention like this story or a dead singer/movie star?! NOT! May the dead rest in peace on ALL sides. May ALL of the wounded heal. Catherine Dead men tell no tales - very convenient for the powers that be. A lot does NOT add up as usual. __________________ http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear.../Golden39A.asp http://www.thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=415942 THR.org belongs to Oleg! Last edited by Catherine; November 5th, 2009 at 10:10 PM. Reason: Added more and typos.

November 5th, 2009, 08:56 PM	#25
Catherine Senior Member Join Date: 03-20-08 Location: Montana Posts: 3,199	ALL People should be allowed to carry a GUN for self defense no matter where they work or play or live. ANY kind of carry. Have gun will travel. This proves that the anti gun - anti liberty people who say that ONLY the police and military should be able to carry and use a GUN are wrong - dead wrong. Catherine __________________ http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear.../Golden39A.asp http://www.thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=415942 THR.org belongs to Oleg!

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