Looking forward to the new CZ P07

armoredman · December 12th, 2008, 06:37 PM

The CZ P07 Duty, an original design, brand new trigger system, not a repackaged CZ-75, but something new under the Czech sun. Not much info yet, but a nice pre-production picture.

9mm, switchable from decocker to standard safety and back. Coming out next year.

Want. Want now.

JeffDilla · December 12th, 2008, 09:43 PM

That is a sweet looking gun. Is it just me or does the trigger guard look huge? Maybe it's just the angle that the picture was taken at. What do you guess the price will be on these? And do you have any idea of how early in 2009 they'll be available?

hemiram · December 12th, 2008, 09:50 PM

Blehhh!!

yhtomit · December 12th, 2008, 10:58 PM

That *is* a huge trigger guard. But I like the look of the gun -- is that a reversable backstrap, too?

However, I don't like it quite as much as I do the P01, so this one will fit lower on the wishlist

timothy

NCTexan · December 12th, 2008, 11:37 PM

Looking at the trigger guard, I believe that this is the model that you can shoot wearing mittens.

hessy · December 13th, 2008, 12:17 AM

Boy, that's ugly!

Devonai · December 13th, 2008, 12:25 AM

I'm neutral on the aesthetics, but it will be nice to see another polymer-framed DA/SA pistol out there. Too many manufacturers are jumping on the striker-fired bandwagon. Not that there's anything wrong with them.

Mrs. Armoredman · December 13th, 2008, 12:29 AM

I think it looks sweeeeet.

armoredman · December 13th, 2008, 02:20 AM

I don't know if the backstrap is changable or not, but I'll see if I can find out.

3(three)gun · December 13th, 2008, 05:44 AM

Butt ugly! That thing would have to shoot laser guided bullets before I'd carry it and even that might not be enough. Hard to tell how or why it's a "75". Doesn't look like much was carried over.

lee n. field · December 13th, 2008, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Boy, that's ugly!

Yup.

I see a lot of things going on that look like they're there more for aesthetics than function. And I don't care for the aesthetics. I think it's the trigger guard that does it for me. At least it doesn't have forward cocking serrations.

What's that patch forward of what must be the slide latch?

**ZeSpectre** · December 13th, 2008, 12:07 PM

Examining that layout makes me think that is going to be a pretty small gun.

strangelittleman · December 13th, 2008, 01:16 PM

I'll definately be smoking it over, I'm a big fan of all things CZ.

I would think the "patch forward of the slide release is for a "thumb forward" hold w/ the supporting hand. (for a right-handed shooter)

The only thing that has no place on the weapon is "DUTY" on the forward portion of the slide. That's just silly.

retgarr · December 13th, 2008, 02:33 PM

I certainly hope they've done it right this time. I remember the CZ-100.

DrDremel · December 13th, 2008, 05:00 PM

It looks like the fire control system is not ground up different judging from the pin locations. The lock up has been changed from the lugs on the barrel to the cheaper locking on the hood of the slide method that Glock, S&W, Sig, and others have gone too. The larger trigger guard is a plus for function with gloves on. While I'll take the classic CZ line, this looks to be a good addition and cheaper to manufacture as all plastic framed pistols are.

armoredman · December 13th, 2008, 05:27 PM

Actually the fire control system, from what I was told, is quite differant, and reported to be improved over the standard CZ system. Looking forward to finding out.

burningsquirrels · December 13th, 2008, 06:57 PM

iirc they said something about the safety lever being able to cock n' lock, and also function as a decocker for when you're done shooting.

SDDL-UP · December 13th, 2008, 07:04 PM

I don't think the trigger guard is overly huge. To me it looks like the rest of the gun is a little smaller than you might think.

Is it just me though or does the barrel look like it sits fairly high in the gun? Kind of hard to tell, but it looks like it's farther from the hand than the traditional CZ-75's.

GARY1911A1 · December 13th, 2008, 08:25 PM

I'll wait and see how it fits my hand and how easy it is to work the manual thumb safety on one. I would like a CZ type light pistol besides my P-01 for conceal carry that has a manual safety so I have some hope that it will be good.

I also agree with retgarr's comments on the CZ-100. What a terrible pistol.

capttom · December 14th, 2008, 05:38 PM

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one in the world who likes the CZ 100. It's not my favorite pistol, by any stretch of the imagination. It gets the job done, though. Even one of the lieutenants here on the local police force finds it acceptable after getting over his initial Not Glock reaction. Dryfiring, he disliked the trigger; on the firing line, he didn't have a bit of problem with the pull. Maybe that's because he sometimes carries a 642 Airweight.
As for the P 07, the verdict's out for me until I can heft it. Down here in southeast Texas, we don't need many winter triggerguards for gloves. Also, I'm not sold on the finger pad on the frame. I guess that's what that stippled area is in front of the slide release.

burningsquirrels · December 14th, 2008, 05:53 PM

there's a CZ-100 here at our gun shop. it's been there since march - almost seems like noone wants it. they've been asking 300.

Gary G23 · December 14th, 2008, 07:55 PM

Damn. Another CZ I have to buy. I'll be sure and check that out at the Shot Show.

I just bought a CZ SP-01 Phantom yesterday. I honestly believe they have figured out how to make polymer guns now.

Big Daddy Grim · December 14th, 2008, 08:02 PM

Does it come in better calibers?

mbs357 · December 14th, 2008, 08:03 PM

Is that a decocker? Blegh.

mbott · December 15th, 2008, 07:13 AM

Great, just what I need. Something else to add to the credit card. Although I just may have to wait on the .40S&W version.

--
Mike

December 12th, 2008, 06:37 PM	#1
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: 11-19-03 Location: AZ Posts: 9,567	Looking forward to the new CZ P07 The CZ P07 Duty, an original design, brand new trigger system, not a repackaged CZ-75, but something new under the Czech sun. Not much info yet, but a nice pre-production picture. 9mm, switchable from decocker to standard safety and back. Coming out next year. Want. Want now. __________________ If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous? I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of The United States of America, and to the Republic which it defines. http://www.correctionofficersmemorialwall.com/ http://czforum.com/

December 12th, 2008, 09:43 PM	#2
JeffDilla Senior Member Join Date: 08-23-08 Location: Maine Posts: 242	That is a sweet looking gun. Is it just me or does the trigger guard look huge? Maybe it's just the angle that the picture was taken at. What do you guess the price will be on these? And do you have any idea of how early in 2009 they'll be available? __________________ Jeff NRA Member

December 12th, 2008, 11:37 PM	#5
NCTexan New Member Join Date: 09-02-07 Posts: 18	Looking at the trigger guard, I believe that this is the model that you can shoot wearing mittens. __________________ Beretta 92FS & PX4 9mm Springfield Armory 1911 Loaded & XDM 9mm S&W 952-2, Model 41 & K38 Model 14-4

December 13th, 2008, 12:25 AM	#7
Devonai Senior Member Join Date: 03-24-03 Location: East Granby, CT Posts: 2,837	I'm neutral on the aesthetics, but it will be nice to see another polymer-framed DA/SA pistol out there. Too many manufacturers are jumping on the striker-fired bandwagon. Not that there's anything wrong with them. __________________ Travel to exotic planets, meet new and interesting alien races, and kill them. *Reckless Faith*: My science fiction adventure series.

December 13th, 2008, 12:29 AM	#8
Mrs. Armoredman Senior Member Join Date: 10-23-04 Location: Arizona Posts: 346	I think it looks sweeeeet. __________________ If you don't believe in our bill of rights keep your hands off it... NRA Life Member

December 12th, 2008, 09:50 PM	#3
hemiram Senior Member Join Date: 12-29-06 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 269	Blehhh!!

December 12th, 2008, 10:58 PM	#4
yhtomit Senior Member Join Date: 05-27-06 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,656	That is a huge trigger guard. But I like the look of the gun -- is that a reversable backstrap, too? However, I don't like it quite as much as I do the P01, so this one will fit lower on the wishlist timothy

December 13th, 2008, 12:17 AM	#6
hessy Senior Member Join Date: 11-25-05 Posts: 121	Boy, that's ugly!

December 13th, 2008, 02:20 AM	#9
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: 11-19-03 Location: AZ Posts: 9,567	I don't know if the backstrap is changable or not, but I'll see if I can find out. __________________ If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous? I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of The United States of America, and to the Republic which it defines. http://www.correctionofficersmemorialwall.com/ http://czforum.com/

December 13th, 2008, 05:44 AM	#10
3(three)gun New Member Join Date: 10-16-08 Posts: 7	Butt ugly! That thing would have to shoot laser guided bullets before I'd carry it and even that might not be enough. Hard to tell how or why it's a "75". Doesn't look like much was carried over.

December 13th, 2008, 12:07 PM	#12
ZeSpectre Moderator Join Date: 10-10-06 Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA Posts: 6,594	Examining that layout makes me think that is going to be a pretty small gun. __________________ . "The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on"

December 13th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#13
strangelittleman Senior Member Join Date: 10-12-07 Posts: 432	I'll definately be smoking it over, I'm a big fan of all things CZ. I would think the "patch forward of the slide release is for a "thumb forward" hold w/ the supporting hand. (for a right-handed shooter) The only thing that has no place on the weapon is "DUTY" on the forward portion of the slide. That's just silly. __________________ "I am one, my liege, whom the vile blows and buffets of the world hath so incensed, that I am reckless..." Macbeth. "Untutored courage is no match for an educated bullet." Gen. George Patton "The villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard, but I will better the instruction." Shakespeare's Merchant Jew. Last edited by strangelittleman; December 13th, 2008 at 02:06 PM.

December 13th, 2008, 02:33 PM	#14
retgarr Senior Member Join Date: 01-18-08 Posts: 395	I certainly hope they've done it right this time. I remember the CZ-100. __________________ Considering how often the question of "which .22lr is best?" gets asked, I figured I'd put my answer in the sig line. CZech 'em out. The science of "knockdown power": Thar be dragons! Whatever happened to deck guns?

December 13th, 2008, 05:00 PM	#15
DrDremel Senior Member Join Date: 12-28-02 Location: Mt. Clemens, MI Posts: 315	It looks like the fire control system is not ground up different judging from the pin locations. The lock up has been changed from the lugs on the barrel to the cheaper locking on the hood of the slide method that Glock, S&W, Sig, and others have gone too. The larger trigger guard is a plus for function with gloves on. While I'll take the classic CZ line, this looks to be a good addition and cheaper to manufacture as all plastic framed pistols are.

December 13th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#16
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: 11-19-03 Location: AZ Posts: 9,567	Actually the fire control system, from what I was told, is quite differant, and reported to be improved over the standard CZ system. Looking forward to finding out. __________________ If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous? I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of The United States of America, and to the Republic which it defines. http://www.correctionofficersmemorialwall.com/ http://czforum.com/

December 13th, 2008, 06:57 PM	#17
burningsquirrels Senior Member Join Date: 04-01-08 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,022	iirc they said something about the safety lever being able to cock n' lock, and also function as a decocker for when you're done shooting. __________________ \CZ-40b SAO Limited-10 Div./\CZ-75 SP-01 Production Div./ CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition! Why CZ? Because I like to win.

December 13th, 2008, 07:04 PM	#18
SDDL-UP Senior Member Join Date: 09-25-07 Posts: 212	I don't think the trigger guard is overly huge. To me it looks like the rest of the gun is a little smaller than you might think. Is it just me though or does the barrel look like it sits fairly high in the gun? Kind of hard to tell, but it looks like it's farther from the hand than the traditional CZ-75's. __________________ *Arm yourself, arm a friend!*

December 13th, 2008, 08:25 PM	#19
GARY1911A1 Senior Member Join Date: 11-14-06 Location: Soon to be FL! Posts: 115	I'll wait and see how it fits my hand and how easy it is to work the manual thumb safety on one. I would like a CZ type light pistol besides my P-01 for conceal carry that has a manual safety so I have some hope that it will be good. I also agree with retgarr's comments on the CZ-100. What a terrible pistol.

December 14th, 2008, 05:38 PM	#20
capttom Senior Member Join Date: 04-01-06 Posts: 157	Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one in the world who likes the CZ 100. It's not my favorite pistol, by any stretch of the imagination. It gets the job done, though. Even one of the lieutenants here on the local police force finds it acceptable after getting over his initial Not Glock reaction. Dryfiring, he disliked the trigger; on the firing line, he didn't have a bit of problem with the pull. Maybe that's because he sometimes carries a 642 Airweight. As for the P 07, the verdict's out for me until I can heft it. Down here in southeast Texas, we don't need many winter triggerguards for gloves. Also, I'm not sold on the finger pad on the frame. I guess that's what that stippled area is in front of the slide release.

December 14th, 2008, 05:53 PM	#21
burningsquirrels Senior Member Join Date: 04-01-08 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,022	there's a CZ-100 here at our gun shop. it's been there since march - almost seems like noone wants it. they've been asking 300. __________________ \CZ-40b SAO Limited-10 Div./\CZ-75 SP-01 Production Div./ CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition! Why CZ? Because I like to win.

December 14th, 2008, 07:55 PM	#22
Gary G23 Senior Member Join Date: 01-01-03 Location: Corvette City Posts: 1,218	Damn. Another CZ I have to buy. I'll be sure and check that out at the Shot Show. I just bought a CZ SP-01 Phantom yesterday. I honestly believe they have figured out how to make polymer guns now.

December 14th, 2008, 08:02 PM	#23
Big Daddy Grim Senior Member Join Date: 06-16-08 Location: Idaho Posts: 602	Does it come in better calibers? __________________ Some day my children will have a lot of guns and that will bring a smile to my face.

December 14th, 2008, 08:03 PM	#24
mbs357 Senior Member Join Date: 12-14-04 Location: Ahoskie, NC Posts: 1,626	Is that a decocker? Blegh. __________________ A word about zombies. Reciever of four whole +1s. I have 86 GMail invites, PM me your e-Mail address and I'll shoot you one out. Take The High Road!

December 15th, 2008, 07:13 AM	#25
mbott Senior Member Join Date: 12-25-02 Location: Central, OH Posts: 339	Great, just what I need. Something else to add to the credit card. Although I just may have to wait on the .40S&W version. -- Mike __________________ NRA Benefactor Life Member NRA Certified Basic Pistol, Basic Rifle and Personal Protection Instructor

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